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Monday, August 20, 2018

FAQs: Mongoose Pro GM II Diagnostic & Programming

Here are a lot of questions and answers of Mangoose Pro GM II (the dealer or the copy), including software compatible (Tech2Win and GDS2), comparison with GM MDI & Tech 2 & Snap On Solus, diagnostic & programming & reprogramming issues….

I prefer Mangoose Pro II because of price...what do you think..will it work with my corsa d without problem? Or GM MDI better?

GM Mangoose PRO only for Opel/Vauxhall/GM with Tech2Win and GDS2.
Full coverage diagnostic and SPS programming
GM MDI can be use as a passthru for other software too
This is one of the difference
Both are good

I really just want to know what software and equipment I need to get me going with the GM Cars I actually have for diagnostics and programming.

GM Tech2 scanner or Tech2 software can used with gds2 or mvci, genuine is little high, but cheaper you can get from chine,
other is Mongoose Pro GM II, depend what exactly you want to do.

Is this Mangoose Pro GM 2 that is listed on Drew’s website?

Yes, this is the same as the Mongoose Pro GM2.

Can you buy the china clone of Mangoose GM2? If so, how much are they?

I bought mine for 70usd off obdii365.com

Will this interface perform diag. and programming on GM Global A vehicle (with SPS and GDS2)

Yes, the Mongoose Pro GM II will work with SPS, GDS2 and Tech2Win.

Is the MongoosePro GM II compatible with “Data Bus Diagnostic” Tool software?

Drew Tech has stated that as of early March 2015, the Mongoose Pro GM and the CarDAQ-M are both compatible with GM’s “Data Bus Diagnostic” Tool software.

When using Mangoose Pro GM II to SPS programming, does it program at the same speed as the GM MDI?

The MongoosePro appears to flash as quickly as the MDI.
The MongoosePro GM is definitely quicker than the Tech 2.

The MDI cost 4x more than the MongoosePro GM II but it is not 4x faster.

I have TIS2WEB, Tech2WIN, GDS2 & MDI. Is the MongoosePro GM II plug and play or does it needs to be configured?

The MangoosePro GM II is plug and play. Make sure to install the Tech2Win driver if you want to use the application.

Can this product be used as a replacement for mdi? Used for Tech2win and gds2?

MongoosePro GM II is compatible with Tech2win and GDS2 software for scan tool diagnostics, and it will flash GM-vehicles.

The MDI is a separate tool that is also compatible with Tech2win and GDS2.

Yes, the MongoosePro GM II is a replacement for the MDI.

Both tools do flashing.

Also, both tools require a subscription

Can you guide me the way to install Mangoose GM software?

First thing you need to do with this setup is access the Tech2Win driver settings.

Next trick I think is how to get security access.

In detail…

http://blog.obdii365.com/2018/01/26/mongoose-pro-gm-review-install-and-test/

Can the MDI do more than Mongoose Pro GM II can?

I already have a Tech 2 and a GM subscription and I need to be able to do the newer GM’s. Is there any reason not to buy this instead of the MDI? Will I be missing anything?

The Mongoose Pro GM II ALMOST does everything the MDI does. Currently that is:
– Module reflashing with SPS
– Diagnostics with Tech2Win software
– Diagnostics with GDS2 software.

UPDATE: The GDS2 software package includes the data bus diagnostic tool. Using the data bus diagnostic tool, the MDI will allow you to see voltage levels on the data bus, the Mongoose will not. The Mongoose will run the data bus diagnostic tool, but only partially.
Bosch corporate provides no support for installation and use of the MDI with GM software.
Drew does.
This is the big price difference.

Which tool do you recommend performing “advanced functions” on GM Vehicles? The cars I have are a 2003 Monte Carlo SS, and a 2009 Cadillac STS.

In order to perform “advanced functions” on GM Vehicles you are going to need something that talks with all the computers on the GM Vehicle.

The ones that I know of that do this are:

1) GM Tech 2 (will handle everything including programming the computers “updating calibrations”) This tool is being phased out but it’s still supported until they can get the MDI fully operational. Either way this works Stand Alone without a Laptop/PC.

2) GM MDI (Some say there are limitations with some model years but others say it’s better since the updates) Of course using Tech2Win to mimic what the GM Tech 2 does) – This performs like a J2534 Programmer as a Pass Thru Device. DrewTech and companies like Ease Diagnostics make J2534 Pass Thru Devices that will do this as well. And they sell their own flavor of Diagnostics Scan Software. Keep in mind only the GM stuff will do EVERYTHING for GM Vehicles.

3) Snap On Solus (This will do a lot not only on GM Vehicles but others as well. And it can do some of the advanced functions like Automated Brake Bleed on the ABS unit just like the GM Tech 2 and GM MDI) – Keep in mind there are many functions that the Snap On won’t do. The Tech 2 and MDI will allows you the option to access and control everything on GM Vehicles.

4) Mongoose Pro GM II (It can do things as GM MDI does.) Even the cheap Mangoose China clone is able to recover and reprogram modules perfectly and works with the newer h***ed 2017 GDS2!!!

In summary, Magoose Pro GM II features:

Plug and play: yes!

GM diagnostics and programming: confirmed!

Module recover and reprogramming: confirmed!

SPS programming speed: fast!

“Data Bus Diagnostic” Tool software: compatible!

Tech2win, GDS2, SPS: compatible!

Mongoose Pro GM II ALMOST does everything the MDI does!

http://blog.obdii365.com/2018/08/20/mangoose-pro-gm-ii-diagnostic-programming-faqs/

Thursday, January 25, 2018

How to use Mongoose Pro GM 2 for Saab 9-3 2007

Here I would like to talk about my Mongoose Pro GM 2 cable from China (someone call it Mangoose also).

Purchase:

Received HQ knockoff Mongoose Pro GM II cable that I purchased from obdii365.com.

The primary use for this cable will be to perform SPS programming on my 2007 Yukon XL. However…GM recently approved this cable for use with Tech2Win! And even better yet, GM appears to have released a Saab NAO binary that DOES work in Tech2Win.

To date I have seen almost no discussion of Mongoose/Saab NAO v9.25 Tech2Win on this forum or any others and don’t understand why not. I was able to acquire it from another website and it works natively with Tech2Win. I did not have to modify the binary at all.

That means I should be able to achieve connectivity to my 2007 and 2008 9-3’s with the Mongoose and Tech2Win

This would make a nice alternative to the crappy Tech II’s coming out of China. And it works.

Having finally given up on my bad clone Tech II (I fixed it, it worked for a while longer and then finally gave up the ghost ) I am determined to bring a affordable, reliable GM Tech2 experience to the Saab community.

I will post results after I can confirm it works. For one of my tests I am going to re-add my ECU on the 2007 to update the software to the latest rev to fix my engine drop on hot restart issue. I’m receiving the cable on Friday, but due to being a husband and a father, I can’t promise I will have results to share immediately. Might take a few more days.

Install:

It works!

I was finally able to test it out the other day. This is where I got to. I will post screen shots later (at work and don’t have access yet).

First thing you need to do with this setup is access the ech2Win driver settings. There is a check box about dropping CAN signals for low-speed CAN. The default is that this box is checked. Uncheck it. Without doing so, you will not be able to access the low speed CAN and will get error messages and various other problems, especially with regards to requesting security access.

Next trick I had to figure out was how to get security access. This proved to be pretty simple…just perform the function as you would on a regular Tech II and use TIS2000!

I tried using the Opel Global TIS V32 security access function but was not able to make it work. I cannot be sure this is due to a setting somewhere or just an incompatability with the car, but TIS2000 works great.

Anybody excited yet? Haha, I’m just giddy over this. Legit, supported hardware and legit, supported software working.

Tech2Win working with a Saab! Fully working! I can’t wait until the next time my wife and son are taking a nap so I can sneak off to my car to keep tooling around with this setup.

The next thing I am doing is updating my 2007 9-3 2.0T ECU software to the latest REV because it’s currently suffering from the occational hot start idle stumble.

Test:

Step 1, open Tech2Win, use the default image.

Step 2, open GlobalTIS for Opel v32 and select security access. Get security access. Tech2Win license will refresh and it will unlock Tech2Win so it will communicate with the car. Close Tech2Win.

Step 3, plug in the Mongoose Pro GM and plug the other end into the car.

Step 4, open Tech2Win. Select the Saab BIN that you set up (do this on your own)

Step 5, Tech2Win prompts you to use the Mongoose, so, use the Mongoose.

Step 6, you will see the Saab 9.250 NAO splash screen. Notice the license expiration says <1 instead of 0, and you will not see any “circle with a line through it” through the Tech2 picture, the MDI picture, etc, because Tech2Win is unlocked.

Step 7, get some security access

Step 8, wait for Tech2Win to do its thing, and give you the prompt:

Step 9, use TIS2000 to get security access. Turn “off” Tech2Win using the power button in the GUI, which basically resets the software. Fire up TIS2000 and select Get Security Access. Note, you may have to adjust the baud on the serial connection, I had to drop mine a bit before things played nicely. Also, unplug the Mongoose while you are doing all this nonsense.

Step 10, BOOM you got yourself some security access. If you got this far, celebrate!

Step 11, plug the Mongoose back in, hit the power button and restart Tech2Win. You are good to go, you have full security access. Feel free to do whatever you want! Here is me jacking around with some of the diagnostics. I used this same software to re-program the BCM on my 2008 9-3 CV. It works.

Step 12, SPS! Close out all this crap and open GlobalTIS for Saab. Open SPS. Plug in Mongoose. Basically, it just works. It will show up in the list as an available adapter. Follow the directions. Here are some pictures of me updating the ECU for my 2007 9-3 2.0T to eliminate the idle dip problem I occasionally experienced.

Most of what I wrote omits some tips and tricks but was designed to show, yes, this tool works, its compatible 100% with 2003+ 9-3SS for sure, and I love it. I don’t know how I put up with the Chinese junk. No more time bombs. Plus this setup works for my 2007 Yukon XL Denali. If I buy a car with the Global A electrical platform, the Mongoose is certified to work with GDSII also! So it’s pretty much future proofed.

Here are some more random photos of my setup and of the Mongoose plugged in and…Mongoosing?