How to use Mongoose Pro GM 2 for Saab 9-3 2007

Here I would like to talk about my Mongoose Pro GM 2 cable from China (someone call it Mangoose also).

Purchase:

Received HQ knockoff Mongoose Pro GM II cable that I purchased from obdii365.com.

The primary use for this cable will be to perform SPS programming on my 2007 Yukon XL. However…GM recently approved this cable for use with Tech2Win! And even better yet, GM appears to have released a Saab NAO binary that DOES work in Tech2Win.

To date I have seen almost no discussion of Mongoose/Saab NAO v9.25 Tech2Win on this forum or any others and don’t understand why not. I was able to acquire it from another website and it works natively with Tech2Win. I did not have to modify the binary at all.

That means I should be able to achieve connectivity to my 2007 and 2008 9-3’s with the Mongoose and Tech2Win

This would make a nice alternative to the crappy Tech II’s coming out of China. And it works.

Having finally given up on my bad clone Tech II (I fixed it, it worked for a while longer and then finally gave up the ghost ) I am determined to bring a affordable, reliable GM Tech2 experience to the Saab community.

I will post results after I can confirm it works. For one of my tests I am going to re-add my ECU on the 2007 to update the software to the latest rev to fix my engine drop on hot restart issue. I’m receiving the cable on Friday, but due to being a husband and a father, I can’t promise I will have results to share immediately. Might take a few more days.

Install:

It works!

I was finally able to test it out the other day. This is where I got to. I will post screen shots later (at work and don’t have access yet).

First thing you need to do with this setup is access the ech2Win driver settings. There is a check box about dropping CAN signals for low-speed CAN. The default is that this box is checked. Uncheck it. Without doing so, you will not be able to access the low speed CAN and will get error messages and various other problems, especially with regards to requesting security access.

Next trick I had to figure out was how to get security access. This proved to be pretty simple…just perform the function as you would on a regular Tech II and use TIS2000!

I tried using the Opel Global TIS V32 security access function but was not able to make it work. I cannot be sure this is due to a setting somewhere or just an incompatability with the car, but TIS2000 works great.

Anybody excited yet? Haha, I’m just giddy over this. Legit, supported hardware and legit, supported software working.

Tech2Win working with a Saab! Fully working! I can’t wait until the next time my wife and son are taking a nap so I can sneak off to my car to keep tooling around with this setup.

The next thing I am doing is updating my 2007 9-3 2.0T ECU software to the latest REV because it’s currently suffering from the occational hot start idle stumble.

Test:

Step 1, open Tech2Win, use the default image.

Step 2, open GlobalTIS for Opel v32 and select security access. Get security access. Tech2Win license will refresh and it will unlock Tech2Win so it will communicate with the car. Close Tech2Win.

Step 3, plug in the Mongoose Pro GM and plug the other end into the car.

Step 4, open Tech2Win. Select the Saab BIN that you set up (do this on your own)

Step 5, Tech2Win prompts you to use the Mongoose, so, use the Mongoose.

Step 6, you will see the Saab 9.250 NAO splash screen. Notice the license expiration says <1 instead of 0, and you will not see any “circle with a line through it” through the Tech2 picture, the MDI picture, etc, because Tech2Win is unlocked.

Step 7, get some security access

Step 8, wait for Tech2Win to do its thing, and give you the prompt:

Step 9, use TIS2000 to get security access. Turn “off” Tech2Win using the power button in the GUI, which basically resets the software. Fire up TIS2000 and select Get Security Access. Note, you may have to adjust the baud on the serial connection, I had to drop mine a bit before things played nicely. Also, unplug the Mongoose while you are doing all this nonsense.

Step 10, BOOM you got yourself some security access. If you got this far, celebrate!

Step 11, plug the Mongoose back in, hit the power button and restart Tech2Win. You are good to go, you have full security access. Feel free to do whatever you want! Here is me jacking around with some of the diagnostics. I used this same software to re-program the BCM on my 2008 9-3 CV. It works.

Step 12, SPS! Close out all this crap and open GlobalTIS for Saab. Open SPS. Plug in Mongoose. Basically, it just works. It will show up in the list as an available adapter. Follow the directions. Here are some pictures of me updating the ECU for my 2007 9-3 2.0T to eliminate the idle dip problem I occasionally experienced.

Most of what I wrote omits some tips and tricks but was designed to show, yes, this tool works, its compatible 100% with 2003+ 9-3SS for sure, and I love it. I don’t know how I put up with the Chinese junk. No more time bombs. Plus this setup works for my 2007 Yukon XL Denali. If I buy a car with the Global A electrical platform, the Mongoose is certified to work with GDSII also! So it’s pretty much future proofed.

Here are some more random photos of my setup and of the Mongoose plugged in and…Mongoosing?

My recommendation: If you are the least bit handy with computers, buy this thing and never look back.

Cheers!

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GM Tech2 for ALL systems - HP Tuners only for ECM & TCM

What is GM Tech2:

The Tech 2 scan tool, working with TIS2000 software, supports onboard diagnostics and full bi-directional control when performing powertrain, chassis and body diagnostics for GM/SAAB/OPEL/SUZUKI/ISUZU/Holden.

What is HP Tuners:

The HP Tuners vcm suite is the most feature rich, powerful and comprehensive vcm/PCM reprogramming and diagnostics package available on the market today. Vcm suite is the ultimate tuning tool designed for basic Tuners to advanced tuning shops.

GM Tech 2 vs. HP Tuners:

HPT can only work with ECM and TCM

Tech II can work with ABS, BCM, etc. (all systems)

But, Tech 2 can only change/do stuff GM intended where HPT can change all kinds of tables GM wouldn’t want us messing with

So both have pluses/minuses depending on what you want to do

Tech 2 scan tool:

confirmed to works good for ALL systems

I just checked my Tech II clone against my 2006 C6. In the ABS section there is an “Automated Bleed” option. In the Radiosection there is a “VIN Relearn” option. I’ve never actually used either one, but I bet it works.

The Tech II clone is literally running the same software as the Tech II, so it has all the same functions. There are a few caveats: the standard clone power supply will cause the unit to reset if you run the starter motor, apparently, though this can be fixed. Also, operating while tethered to a PC involves a bunch of licensing hacks and other nonsense. But you only need to do that if you want to flash the ECU firmware.

The Tech II lets you see (and individually reset) all the DTCs from all the modules. It also has a bunch of special functions and bidirectional capabilities.

It’s great as a standalone diagnostics tool but it isn’t intended to modify ECU parameters like tuning software does. This is a tool for fixing the car, not modifying it.

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How to use GM Tech2 scan tool for Chevrolet C5 diagnostic?

This is a write-up for those with a GM Tech 2 scan tool on Chevrolet C5

Tech 2 scanner is a diagnostic tool for the most part. It can be used to program out/in certain RPO’s in the BCM and can be used to bleed the ABS brake system without introducing air into the system. The extent to which it can be used to tune a Chevrolet C5 is that if you have a PCM Image that will work for your car you can save the current PCM Image and flash the new one you have onto the PCM. It cannot go in and individually change the tuning tables in the PCM as can say either EFI Live or HP Tuners tuning tools. But then those tools cannot touch the BCM either.

If you do or plan to do a lot of diagnostic work on your car it can be a worthwhile tool. Most of the diagnostic charts in the factory service manual assume the availability of a Tech 2. But you have to learn to use the tool like any other computerized diagnostic tool. It has layers and layers of menus to wade through. But in certain diagnostic situations it can be an invaluable tool because it allows you to turn on and off hundreds of computerized settings to aid in the diagnosis process.

GM intentionally dumbed down the capabilities of the Tech 2 to change things to avoid law suits due to an errant technician that changed engine or emissions settings that could result in engine damage or emissions violations.

GM Tech2, the bi-directional scan tool can access all the 10 computers in the c5 corvette. That means it can scan for DTC codes, allow the adding or removing of most accessory codes like turning off the mag ride shocks to install regular schocks, fixing window regulator problems, etc. For Bi-directional it can active the ABS system to flush the brake fluid, reset the Long Term Fuel Trims, eliminate the 1-4 shift on manual trans, etc. It cannot make changes (like a tune tool) to the transmission or engine management system. For the avid DIY’er it is a great tool.
In the C5, the “computers” (technically they are modules) and they communicate over the OBDII compatible DLC data bus to each other. The range from you radio to your ride control, to your HVAC system. Even the Bose head unit talks to the PCM and BCM through this bus, but the CD changer talks over a “private” data bus to the head unit.

The Sensor Modules that can be pulled up from the DIC are:
PCM, BCM, TCS, RTD, IPC, HVAC, LDCM, RDCM, SCM, RFA, and SDM.
Only those C5’s with RPO F45 or F55 will have RTD.

Reference: Here is a very useful TECH2 pathing document that you can use to figure out how to get to the end result that you need to test.

download link: https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/attachments/c5-tech/48078347d1490892183-what-can-i-do-with-a-tech2-tech-2paths-en-1-.pdf

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How to set up GM Tech2 clone scanner?

As titled, here’s little guide on set up a GM tech2 clone scan tool.

STEP 1
Buy a GM tech 2. The Tech 2 remains an essential tool through at least the 2010 model year. Clones are available from $200-$350.

SP23-1 (no case) verify that it includes the 32 MB card
SP23-B3 no case, with 32 MB card and TIS2000 software
SP23-C plastic box, with 32 MB card , TIS2000 and candi interface

It should arrive within a week (took 5 days for me) from Hong Kong.

Some prefer SP23-B3, no case. I bought the sp23-c with candi. The unit comes with a CD and stickers.  You made your choice.

STEP 2

Get out an old laptop or buy one online e-shop. It needs Windows XP and a serial port. I run a Dell D630. You can try USB to serial adapters or newer versions of Windows but do you want to mess around with getting old software to run on new computers?

STEP 3

Download cracked TIS2000 from the software on GM forums or use the CD in package and install it on the laptop.

STEP 4

The PCMCIA card comes pre-installed in the gm Tech2. It also comes with a bunch of adapters. You find the one that hooks under the dash. Connect that to the Candi module (that comes with the TEch2) and connect it under the dash. The candi module connects to the tech2. Turn on the tech 2 (the obd2 powers it, no need for wall or cigarette lighter power) and you can read DTCs and stuff.

STEP 5

Now if you want to make changes (such as comfort close or whatever you want to do) there is a menu item on the tech2 that says “Common Adjustments”. Go in there and pick the one you want. Hit ok and then the Tech2 will say it needs security access and tells you what to do to get it (which is basically disconnect the tech2….yes it powers down…and hook up the tech 2 via ethernet cable that is supplied that hooks into a ethernet/serial connector that is also supplied that you hook into the laptop.) Connect the AC adapter to the wall to power the Tech2. You fire up the TIS2000 software on the laptop and on the main screen it says “Get Security Access”. Click on that and it communicates with the Tech2. Click through a few screens and a minute later and it says Level 1 access granted. You unhook the tech2 from the laptop and head back to the car and go back in and change things to your hearts content. Where before it would ask you to get security access you don’t need to anymore.

To make things even easier instead of disconnecting the tech II from the car and having to power it while it communicates with the laptop (the AC adapters are flaky apparently) I just run an extension cord out to my car for the laptop. Disconnect the tech2 from the car when it prompts you to, reconnect it to the obd2 for power, and also to the laptops serial port. Do everything all connected up. It gets a bit crowded in there with a laptop and tech2 and cables, but they can just sit on the passenger seat.

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GM Tech2 Shift Up Light Programming Guide

Guide to add indicator to Shift Up Light by using GM Tech2 scanner.


Main Steps:

Make good connection between GM tech 2 GlobalTIS and vehicle.

1. Select Model year 2004

2. Select Saab 9-3 Sport (9440)

3. Click F4:All

4. Select F3: Body

5. Select Driver Inforamtion

6. Select Transmisson Indicators

7. Select F2: Adjustments

8. Select F0: Shift Up Indication

9. Select Reading all vehicle Seed



10. You's see current setting is ON. Add indicator success.

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Program Daytime Running Light with GM Tech2 scanner

GM group Daytime running light dlr programming guide by using GM tech2 scan tool.





Main steps:




Make good connection between GM tech 2 GlobalTIS and vehicle.



1. Select Model year 2004

2. Select Saab 9-3 Sport (9440)

3. Click F4:All

4. Click F7: Add/Remove

5. Select F1: Control Modules

6. Select UEC Module

7. Select Add

8. Click on Adding Unit

9. Select Fixed nozzle headlamp washers

10. Select gear box type: Manual

11. Select With or Without rain sensor

12. Select head lamp type: Xenon

13. Select Xenon type 2

14. Select With or Without fog light front

15. Select Automatic Low Beam only in Pos 2 (VERY IMPORTANT)

16. You have made another selection than the Tech 2 auto suggest. Press YES to continue

with your selection.

17. Select head lamp assembly: Sidemarker (US/CA)

18. Select With or Without extra lights

19. Select market: EU

20. Select Headlamp washers

21. Checking selection

22. Turn ignition key to LOCK position

23. Remove ignition key

24. Add/remove ECU finished

25. Select F5: Most Common Adjustments

26. Select Fog Lights Front

27. Current setting: Pos 1 and 2 (ROW)

Desired setting: Pos 1 and 2 (ROW)

28. Checking vehicle specifics

REC Automatic low beam also in Pos 1

UEC Automatic low beam only in Pos 2
If mismatch occurs, you'll have to change in REC.

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How to Buy a working Clone GM Tech2 Scanner?

Has anyone bought/used one of Chinese Tech 2 scanner (clone)? If so is it any good? I ask this as I’m contemplating buying one. And there are soooo many versions of Tech2 clone; which one should i have?

Reply: Look the chart and tech2 review below. Maybe it can help you a lot.

1. GM Tech 2 package difference:

Item NO.	Package	Weight	32MB Card	CANDI	TIS2000 USB Key	Hot or not
SP23	Plastic Case	5.1kg	Yes	Yes	Yes	★★★★★
SP23-1	Carton Box	3.5kg	Yes	Yes	Yes	★★★★★
SP23-B	Plastic Case	4.8kg	Yes	Yes	Yes	★★★★★
SP23-B3	Carton Box	3.2kg	Yes	Yes	Yes	★★★★★
SP23-C	Plastic Case	8.9kg	Yes	Yes	Yes	★★★
SP23-D	Plastic Case	8.9kg	Yes	Yes	Yes	★★★
SP23-D1	Plastic Case	8.9kg	Yes	Yes	Yes	Just add 1 vci module (sp23-v)
All of GM Tech2 are same functions, they are just from different factory. SP23,SP23-1 the same, just the package case is different, one is with plastic case, one not. SP23-B,SP23-B3 the same factory, the packing is different, one is with plastic case, one not.

2. GM Tech 2 accessory:

Item NO.	Name	Function
SO22-B	32 MB CARD	need more cards, buy so22-b to add
SP23-Z	GM Tech2 Main Unit	GM Tech 2 Multiplexer
SP23-V	GM Tech2 VCI module	VCI
SP23-J	GM Tech2 Keypad	Keypad
SP09-B	GM Tech2 CANDI	Candi with express shipping
SP09	GM TECH2 CANDI	Candi with post shipping
SF63	Main Test Cable for GM TECH2	Main Test Cable
SO104	OBD2 16PIN Connector for GM TECH2	OBD2 Cable
SO01	TIS2000 USB Key for GM cars	Work with Tech2 for GM cars’ programming function before 2007 year.
SO01-B	TIS2000 USB Key for SAAB cars	Work with Tech2 for SAAB before 2008 year cars’ programming.
SP235	ISUZU DC 24V Adapter Type II for GM Tech2	can do ISUZU 24V truck

So, it’s worth having a Tech 2 clone?

It’s a customer review. Read it and get the truth.

Received the GM Tech 2 clone today. Five days from China, not bad for free shipping. Checked it out and everything is working fine except the AC-to-12VDC power adapter (dead). No problem, because I can get one anywhere for $5. In short, that is a nice piece of equipment to have, very nice!

Aside from working beautifully with OBD2, the tech2 is the scanner for GM OBD1 to use. with the right software (plug in chips like nintendo cartridges) it’ll do some daewoo/suzuki, GM medium duty (meaning bigger than 3500 using non automotive OBD2 standards), and other in the GMdistant family tree too.

In addition to generic codes (P0000-P0999) It’ll do all the proprietary GM codes (P1xxx), actuators, and systems. you can also view fuel trims, emissions readyness (beyond a green LED for all OK) and It’ll talk to ALL the modules rather than just the ECM (and if you get into the $250+scanners, ABS) like BCM, SIR, entertainment, EVERYTHING on a GM. At school I used one with a 91+ cartridge on my 87 S10, so going back further is hit or miss but possible.

To adjust shift points and fuel consumption and Speedo, forget it.

The TECH2 can’t do any sort of modding/tuning, only upload GM flashes. At least with legitimate software. I’m sure someone has custom software to do it but there are easier ways nowadays.

Is it worth if you just want to read/clear codes on your own car once in a while, heck no. If you’re doing a lot of work on GMs or want to get a lot more in depth with your car, it’s worth the money.
No comment on China knockoff quality, I mean a working tech2, Chinese made or not.

See my GM tech2 scan tool. It’s working well.

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